I stumbled over Zman grumbling about Cloud People today and thought I'd better Google the Cloud People vs. Dirt People meme.
Why? Because I can't believe that it is really a two layer theory. There must be a third layer in there hiding. I thought.
The top billing on Google Search is a Medium piece by Dennis Price: "CLOUD PEOPLE, DIRT PEOPLE," in caps.
He describes the Cloud People as "generally" believing in:
Zman gets an entry on "Cloud People Blues" from June 2016 and then "A New World" in October 2016. But he has two pieces in 2015 on Cloud People: "The Cloud People" in January and "The Cloud People" in July. Thus:
Whatabout the victims? In a reference to lefties and their notion of "alienation" he notes it didn't apply because:
It is interesting that both Price and Zman don't really show the lower classes as actors, but as adjuncts to the Cloud People.
And that accords with Yarvin's three layers and my Three Peoples. Yarvin's Clients are the clients of the Gentry. My Subordinates are subordinate to their lords. They do not act in society; other people act for them.
Now, I'd already put the Zman's theory in as a three layers theory with Dirt People as the lower class. That was wrong, and I'll fix it.
Why? Because I can't believe that it is really a two layer theory. There must be a third layer in there hiding. I thought.
The top billing on Google Search is a Medium piece by Dennis Price: "CLOUD PEOPLE, DIRT PEOPLE," in caps.
He describes the Cloud People as "generally" believing in:
- Open borders/ globalism
- Pro-choice
- Atheism
- Climate Change
- Pro-LGBTQ
- Pro Euthanasia
- Liberalism
- Big Government
And the Dirt People "generally believe" in:
- Controlled immigration/ nationalism
- Pro-Life
- Theism
- Climate Sceptic
- Traditional Family Structures
- Anti-Euthanasia
- Conservatism
- Small Government
Are there any other people? Sorta. He quotes Thomas Sowell on the bad effect of liberal policies on black people, and then suggests the notion that the Cloud People are interested in
creating a sub-class of voters that are dependent on the State and therefore will always vote for the side of politics that will likely vote for the political wing that will perpetuate those systems.So that agrees with Yarvin's Clients and my Subordinates. But then he heads off into reason and science vs. postmodernism and how postmodernism leads the Cloud People into a wilderness of lies.
Zman gets an entry on "Cloud People Blues" from June 2016 and then "A New World" in October 2016. But he has two pieces in 2015 on Cloud People: "The Cloud People" in January and "The Cloud People" in July. Thus:
The global elites are the cloud people. They float above us, detached from language, culture and history. They have no loyalty to a country or the people and traditions of a country. It’s like the British Raj. The people in charge are fine with the rest of us engaging in our quaint customs, as long as it does not interfere with their looting of the resources. When the ground people cause trouble, then the cloud people step in to remedy it.So, at this point the Dirt People were still "ground people."
Whatabout the victims? In a reference to lefties and their notion of "alienation" he notes it didn't apply because:
the lower classes always had other primary identities that trumped all else. The neighborhood, the gang, rooting for a particular football team are all ways working men give their lives meaning.They are, in fact, "sub-national."
It is interesting that both Price and Zman don't really show the lower classes as actors, but as adjuncts to the Cloud People.
And that accords with Yarvin's three layers and my Three Peoples. Yarvin's Clients are the clients of the Gentry. My Subordinates are subordinate to their lords. They do not act in society; other people act for them.
Now, I'd already put the Zman's theory in as a three layers theory with Dirt People as the lower class. That was wrong, and I'll fix it.
